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Abortion
Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?
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Quote: from meangirl64 at 12:30 am on Aug. 12, 2008

Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 11:11 am on Aug. 11, 2008

alot of things u say are offensive to me. thats just my personal opinion. remember we have to right to make our own choices. if u don't like it too bad.
You fucking retard!
People DO have the right to make their own choices...which is why abortion should be legal...people have the right to choose when they want to have children. And if I remember correctly, the definition of "rape" is: "Rape is a form of assault where one individual forces another to have sexual intercourse against that person's will. It may be defined as forcing a person to submit to any sex act, and is generally considered one of the most serious sex crimes"  
It is NEVER the victim's fault! And if and when you get raped, I'm SURE you'll be singing a different tune, you cunt!

and you are one of The dumbest fucks I have ever met on LW, so congratulations, 'cause you've broken the record for a new level of stupidity.

If you don't like abortion, don't have one, but don't you dare be arrogant enough to assume that you can control everybody else!

So just STFU, 'cause you don't know shit about anything.

So if you don't like abortion, too bad, it's their choice.


how do you know i haven't been raped? and you think I'm a dumb fuck because i don't think the same as you when it comes to  people killing their own children. yes you're correct on the definition but whats inside the humans brain or why they rape is another story sometimes when ladies dress a certain way they are a tease. and i dont want to control anyone elses decision isnt this topic about sharing our opinions which means if someone doesn't agree with you it doesnt make them stupid.

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Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 4:08 pm on Aug. 12, 2008

Quote: from meangirl64 at 12:30 am on Aug. 12, 2008

Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 11:11 am on Aug. 11, 2008

alot of things u say are offensive to me. thats just my personal opinion. remember we have to right to make our own choices. if u don't like it too bad.
You fucking retard!  
 People DO have the right to make their own choices...which is why abortion should be legal...people have the right to choose when they want to have children. And if I remember correctly, the definition of "rape" is: "Rape is a form of assault where one individual forces another to have sexual intercourse against that person's will. It may be defined as forcing a person to submit to any sex act, and is generally considered one of the most serious sex crimes"
 It is NEVER the victim's fault! And if and when you get raped, I'm SURE you'll be singing a different tune, you cunt!  

 and you are one of The dumbest fucks I have ever met on LW, so congratulations, 'cause you've broken the record for a new level of stupidity.  

 If you don't like abortion, don't have one, but don't you dare be arrogant enough to assume that you can control everybody else!  

 So just STFU, 'cause you don't know shit about anything.  

 So if you don't like abortion, too bad, it's their choice.


how do you know i haven't been raped? and you think I'm a dumb fuck because i don't think the same as you when it comes to people killing their own children. yes you're correct on the definition but whats inside the humans brain or why they rape is another story sometimes when ladies dress a certain way they are a tease. and i dont want to control anyone elses decision isnt this topic about sharing our opinions which means if someone doesn't agree with you it doesnt make them stupid.

if you are pro-life, then you are pro-control...you are trying to prevent others from making their own choices....and I called you a dumb fuck because you think that rape victims "wanted" it or "tempted" the man....and if you knew the first thing about human psychology, then you would know that it's not about sex, it's about control

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I think we should probably get back on topic to abortions and not argue so much about rape, but I've found my words and have this to say:

So what if she was dressing "provocatively"? Are you saying that men are animals who have no self control whatsoever? Women don't have control over how men feel, and the responsibility lies solely on the man if he chooses to act on any urges he might have.

As human beings, we are responsible for how we act, how we feel and how we behave. We don't have control over anyone else in the world. You can't force a child to sit if they don't want to sit, you can't force a student to study if they don't want to study, and you certainly have no control over a man's actions if he should decide to have sex with you without your consent. You show absurd amounts of ignorance on many subjects, including abortion, cultural diversity and rape. I can't stop you from feeling the way you do just as I can't stop a man from wanting to rape me. Those sort of things are simply out of my control.

In this country, I have control over my body and over whether or not I want to have an abortion. That is something that falls under my control. Not yours, not your husbands, and not anyone else's. If you want to wear parkas in the summer and give birth every time you conceive, that is your choice. But you have no place telling anyone else what to do with their bodies or their lives; that, my sweet little friend, is out of your control.



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Quote: from Glow Worm at 2:31 pm on Aug. 13, 2008

I think we should probably get back on topic to abortions and not argue so much about rape, but I've found my words and have this to say:

So what if she was dressing "provocatively"? Are you saying that men are animals who have no self control whatsoever? Women don't have control over how men feel, and the responsibility lies solely on the man if he chooses to act on any urges he might have.  

As human beings, we are responsible for how we act, how we feel and how we behave. We don't have control over anyone else in the world. You can't force a child to sit if they don't want to sit, you can't force a student to study if they don't want to study, and you certainly have no control over a man's actions if he should decide to have sex with you without your consent. You show absurd amounts of ignorance on many subjects, including abortion, cultural diversity and rape. I can't stop you from feeling the way you do just as I can't stop a man from wanting to rape me. Those sort of things are simply out of my control.  

In this country, I have control over my body and over whether or not I want to have an abortion. That is something that falls under my control. Not yours, not your husbands, and not anyone else's. If you want to wear parkas in the summer and give birth every time you conceive, that is your choice. But you have no place telling anyone else what to do with their bodies or their lives; that, my sweet little friend, is out of your control.


you just contradicted youre self totally.we have control over our own bodies, if someone is trying to force us to have sex then we should close our legs and push him away. and please find in any of my topics where i have said dont have an abortion. i have said its not youre choice because u created a human being and such things but ive never tried to force anyone not to have an abortion honestly if someone wants to fuck up their body and life i really dont care if they choose not to listen to me.

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Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 12:19 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

you just contradicted youre self totally.we have control over our own bodies, if someone is trying to force us to have sex then we should close our legs and push him away. and please find in any of my topics where i have said dont have an abortion. i have said its not youre choice because u created a human being and such things but ive never tried to force anyone not to have an abortion honestly if someone wants to fuck up their body and life i really dont care if they choose not to listen to me.

No she didnt. We do have control over our own bodies but when youre scared you can sometimes freeze and not do anything. And when you get raped .. youre most likely scared = you might "freeze".

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Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 12:19 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

you just contradicted youre self totally.we have control over our own bodies, if someone is trying to force us to have sex then we should close our legs and push him away.

If you think that stopping yourself from being raped is simply that easy that you are grossly misunderstanding how rape occurs. Your life may be in danger. If someone is holding a knife up to my throat saying that they will cut me if I move or scream, I really doubt that I will try to close my legs to stop the rape. Yes, you may say that is my fault, but I don't see how someone threatening me to have sex against my will would have been my choice.

Ok, I'm done being off topic.

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Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 3:19 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

if someone is trying to force us to have sex then we should close our legs and push him away.

That fucking easy, huh?  In my experience, trying to just close your legs and push him away doesn't work so well if he's stronger.

We may have control over our bodies, but not over anyone else's.  We can make the decision to not submit to a rapist.  Whether he proceeds is under his control.

You're a dumb shit.  Just an FYI.

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Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 12:19 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

Quote: from Glow Worm at 2:31 pm on Aug. 13, 2008

I think we should probably get back on topic to abortions and not argue so much about rape, but I've found my words and have this to say:  

 So what if she was dressing "provocatively"? Are you saying that men are animals who have no self control whatsoever? Women don't have control over how men feel, and the responsibility lies solely on the man if he chooses to act on any urges he might have.

 As human beings, we are responsible for how we act, how we feel and how we behave. We don't have control over anyone else in the world. You can't force a child to sit if they don't want to sit, you can't force a student to study if they don't want to study, and you certainly have no control over a man's actions if he should decide to have sex with you without your consent. You show absurd amounts of ignorance on many subjects, including abortion, cultural diversity and rape. I can't stop you from feeling the way you do just as I can't stop a man from wanting to rape me. Those sort of things are simply out of my control.

 In this country, I have control over my body and over whether or not I want to have an abortion. That is something that falls under my control. Not yours, not your husbands, and not anyone else's. If you want to wear parkas in the summer and give birth every time you conceive, that is your choice. But you have no place telling anyone else what to do with their bodies or their lives; that, my sweet little friend, is out of your control.  

 


you just contradicted youre self totally.we have control over our own bodies, if someone is trying to force us to have sex then we should close our legs and push him away.

Wow...you're one fucking retarded bitch....you just keep on breaking the record for "Stupidest member on LW"!!!

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Quote: from iinsurgent at 6:35 pm on Aug. 11, 2008

Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 6:22 pm on Aug. 11, 2008

its funny because American has about the highest rape and pre marital sex rate in the world as where in other countries women cover their bodies conservatively and those countries have about 1 percent a little more less lets say.
Actually, it doesn't have the highest reported rape rate. South Africa does.


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Quote: from miimii at 1:21 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 12:19 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

you just contradicted youre self totally.we have control over our own bodies, if someone is trying to force us to have sex then we should close our legs and push him away. and please find in any of my topics where i have said dont have an abortion. i have said its not youre choice because u created a human being and such things but ive never tried to force anyone not to have an abortion honestly if someone wants to fuck up their body and life i really dont care if they choose not to listen to me.

No she didnt. We do have control over our own bodies but when youre scared you can sometimes freeze and not do anything. And when you get raped .. youre most likely scared = you might "freeze".


if u freeze and dont do anything its youre fault obviously

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Ashrita, I'm curious.  If your daughter someday has the misfortune of being raped, what will you tell her?  Instead of comforting her like a good mother (and a decent human being) should, will you tell her it was her own fault for being a tramp and not closing her legs?

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Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 4:56 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

Quote: from miimii at 1:21 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 12:19 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

you just contradicted youre self totally.we have control over our own bodies, if someone is trying to force us to have sex then we should close our legs and push him away. and please find in any of my topics where i have said dont have an abortion. i have said its not youre choice because u created a human being and such things but ive never tried to force anyone not to have an abortion honestly if someone wants to fuck up their body and life i really dont care if they choose not to listen to me.
 

 No she didnt. We do have control over our own bodies but when youre scared you can sometimes freeze and not do anything. And when you get raped .. youre most likely scared = you might "freeze".


if u freeze and dont do anything its youre fault obviously

I seriously hope youre nothing but a troll and not actully this stupid.

Its not your fault if you freeze its just something that can happen when you get scared ... its nothing you can control really.

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Ashrita, what does it matter what the victim does during the rape? You've already decided that the base point is that ALL rape victims are trash for being rape victims, so there's no point in fighting back because it often only results in larger injuries or even death to them, and you're going to label them as sluts, whores and stupid trash anyway. It's not like they can "redeem" themselves through fighting back, they'll still be raped in the end, so what's the point?

You really need to learn about reality kiddo. I understand that you're from a sheltered middle eastern culture that shits on women's rights and marries off girls at 15 (like you've been) to 20 and 30 year olds so you basically never see reality outside your household, but still. You obviously have the internet, educate yourself.

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pro-life. if you're raped, don't murder the poor child, just give him/her up for adoption and let them live a happy life w/ a family who's always wanted a baby and could never have one!

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